How in the world

is Rivers ashamed of Pinkerton but not Raditude.

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Permalink Reply by Hugh Lovric on March 20, 2011 at 3:02am

Is he ashamed of Pinkerton at the moment? i thought he thought it was good now.

Permalink Reply by Gohi on March 20, 2011 at 3:11am

Hugh's right. Cool thread, man.

Permalink Reply by Jamekae on March 20, 2011 at 4:49am

Even in their isolated instances, the answer is pretty obvious.

Pinkerton was an extremely ballsy album, Rivers was 110% emotionally invested in it and then the fans, the band and critics all turned around and said "hey, we don't like this." Instead of saving the band from being labelled as some gimmicky one-hit wonder like he wanted, he just pushed the band into obscurity.

Raditude, on the other hand came straight off the production line of songs Rivers could write in a day. There's no emotional depth present and it's not like Rivers was risking anything with it's release. He'd already risked his integrity the second 'Don't Let Go' found our ears.

Permalink Reply by Jordan on March 20, 2011 at 6:59am

Agreed.

Pinkerton was, at first, a commercial failure. That pretty much dropped his level of confidence in his music making.

Now that it's such a fan favorite, and since he decided to play the whole album on tour, I'm sure he's fine with it now.

And he's not ashamed with Raditude because he enjoys collaborating with other musicians to create music that appeals to more people than just his general fanbase.

But that's just info. I've learned over the years from interviews he's done. Only Rivers himself can answer the question completely.

James Stockwell (Jamekae) said:

Even in their isolated instances, the answer is pretty obvious.

Pinkerton was an extremely ballsy album, Rivers was 110% emotionally invested in it and then the fans, the band and critics all turned around and said "hey, we don't like this." Instead of saving the band from being labelled as some gimmicky one-hit wonder like he wanted, he just pushed the band into obscurity.

Raditude, on the other hand came straight off the production line of songs Rivers could write in a day. There's no emotional depth present and it's not like Rivers was risking anything with it's release. He'd already risked his integrity the second 'Don't Let Go' found our ears.

Permalink Reply by oprah on March 20, 2011 at 7:15am

I dont think Raditude as a whole should be ashamed by anyone. The only songs that are embarrassing are I'm Your Daddy and Girl Got Hot really.

Permalink Reply by Gohi on March 20, 2011 at 7:50am

IN THE MALL!!!!!
IN THE MALL!!!!!!

Permalink Reply by Farkas on March 20, 2011 at 9:21am

But those two are among the better half of the album. CSP is the only one to be ashamed of.

Indiekid said:

I dont think Raditude as a whole should be ashamed by anyone. The only songs that are embarrassing are I'm Your Daddy and Girl Got Hot really.

Permalink Reply by Jordan on March 20, 2011 at 9:27am

The only one I don't really like is Love Is The Answer.

I like some parts of it, but the whole Hindi thing just isn't doing it for me.

The dreWid said:

But those two are among the better half of the album. CSP is the only one to be ashamed of.

Indiekid said:
I dont think Raditude as a whole should be ashamed by anyone. The only songs that are embarrassing are I'm Your Daddy and Girl Got Hot really.

Permalink Reply by Hugh Lovric on March 20, 2011 at 10:47am

same.

Jordan said:

The only one I don't really like is Love Is The Answer.

I like some parts of it, but the whole Hindi thing just isn't doing it for me.

The dreWid said:

But those two are among the better half of the album. CSP is the only one to be ashamed of.

Indiekid said:
I dont think Raditude as a whole should be ashamed by anyone. The only songs that are embarrassing are I'm Your Daddy and Girl Got Hot really.