Permalink Reply by Christopher Hickman on October 11, 2010 at 4:24am Sorry, but in my case I'd have to drive 3 hours minimum to make a show in ATL. That's 6 hours round trip for those of you keeping up at home. Bit of an expense, that, even if I eat roadkill and water down my gasoline.
On the flip side, I live in a very big art town that has a metric tonne of great music coming through for between 5 and 20 bucks at the door. I have a press pass and generally get in free or cheepcheep. I'm not starved for art. I'm just not keen on driving AWAY from my home where great art and music happen in small venues to see a band in a massive venue and spend a lot of money doing it.
Finite resources. Choices. 200 or so bucks versus 15 at the door of the local venues if I don't flash my press pass.
Permalink Reply by Sovereign Andy on October 11, 2010 at 5:48am *swoosh*
Sovereign Andy said:Sorry, but in my case I'd have to drive 3 hours minimum to make a show in ATL. That's 6 hours round trip for those of you keeping up at home. Bit of an expense, that, even if I eat roadkill and water down my gasoline.
On the flip side, I live in a very big art town that has a metric tonne of great music coming through for between 5 and 20 bucks at the door. I have a press pass and generally get in free or cheepcheep. I'm not starved for art. I'm just not keen on driving AWAY from my home where great art and music happen in small venues to see a band in a massive venue and spend a lot of money doing it.
Finite resources. Choices. 200 or so bucks versus 15 at the door of the local venues if I don't flash my press pass.
If you know your limitations, then why are you bellyaching? I used to be in the same boat as you, living in Iowa, where I saw 4 shows of this caliber in 6 years. I live an hour from Chicago now, have more money, and have seen at least that many this SUMMER. Just enjoy your local stuff and if it bothers you so much that bands like Weezer don't play your hometown and you don't like to travel, move to where they do play. And Weezer's never going to charge $15 at the door again for a show, so don't hold your breath on that one.
Permalink Reply by Hugh Jorgan on October 11, 2010 at 6:36am yeah, don't wear a coat...in new york...in december.
Rob Caruso said:Welcome to 2010! Everything costs more. My advice, skip the booze and don't wear a coat! If you have other priorities, so be it. It's called life. I quote the great Mick Jagger, "You can't always get what you want."
Permalink Reply by Kali {Weezer Momma} on October 11, 2010 at 7:21am yeah, don't wear a coat...in new york...in december.
Rob Caruso said:Welcome to 2010! Everything costs more. My advice, skip the booze and don't wear a coat! If you have other priorities, so be it. It's called life. I quote the great Mick Jagger, "You can't always get what you want."
Permalink Reply by MozMan68 on October 11, 2010 at 8:00am
Permalink Reply by placemats on October 11, 2010 at 8:48am
placemats said:What do you mean making them cheaper doesn't benefit anyone? It benefits the fans. And there are ways bands can prevent scalpers from scooping up the good seats, such as will call only tickets that require an ID or credit card verfication.
Christopher Hickman said:That's my point - they're NOT charging what the biggest bands in the world charge, they're charging less. But I challenge you to find a popular major label act charging significantly less than this.
I wish they were cheaper too, and I think they're overpriced (not Weezer in particular, concert tickets in general), but I'm part of the problem as I continue to buy. And making them cheaper doesn't benefit anyone, because then the band gets less money and the scalpers get more.
Go try to get tickets to the Aragon right now from Ticketmaster, and then try from Stub Hub, and see what you think. Do you think this would be BETTER if the tickets were LESS?
Permalink Reply by Christopher Hickman on October 11, 2010 at 9:28am are you stupid? Is anyone stealing gas? Groceries? Why are those prices going up? Because we are in a recession. And while I admit i downloaded raditude off demonoid, i have bought every single one of their albums besides that and seen them 6 times in concert, often with over 20 people with me. And btw, out of every 1000 dollars a cd makes, the average musican makes 3.64 cents. TOURING is what helps them make money. Blame the record companies, not piraters.
Christopher Hickman said:I'm not sure what, if any, concerts you've attended in the past 5 years, but these tickets are actually on the low end of average for well established, major bands. Your Pearl Jams and Dave Matthews types are more like $75 face, U2 and Stones $100+, etc....this is what everybody illegally downloading music has done. Well, that's not the only factor, but it is a factor.
Permalink Reply by Christopher Hickman on October 11, 2010 at 9:33am I stand by my statement.
Christopher Hickman said:
placemats said:What do you mean making them cheaper doesn't benefit anyone? It benefits the fans. And there are ways bands can prevent scalpers from scooping up the good seats, such as will call only tickets that require an ID or credit card verfication.
Christopher Hickman said:That's my point - they're NOT charging what the biggest bands in the world charge, they're charging less. But I challenge you to find a popular major label act charging significantly less than this.
I wish they were cheaper too, and I think they're overpriced (not Weezer in particular, concert tickets in general), but I'm part of the problem as I continue to buy. And making them cheaper doesn't benefit anyone, because then the band gets less money and the scalpers get more.
Go try to get tickets to the Aragon right now from Ticketmaster, and then try from Stub Hub, and see what you think. Do you think this would be BETTER if the tickets were LESS?
Permalink Reply by Christopher Hickman on October 11, 2010 at 9:42am
Christopher Hickman said:*swoosh*
Sovereign Andy said:Sorry, but in my case I'd have to drive 3 hours minimum to make a show in ATL. That's 6 hours round trip for those of you keeping up at home. Bit of an expense, that, even if I eat roadkill and water down my gasoline.
On the flip side, I live in a very big art town that has a metric tonne of great music coming through for between 5 and 20 bucks at the door. I have a press pass and generally get in free or cheepcheep. I'm not starved for art. I'm just not keen on driving AWAY from my home where great art and music happen in small venues to see a band in a massive venue and spend a lot of money doing it.
Finite resources. Choices. 200 or so bucks versus 15 at the door of the local venues if I don't flash my press pass.
If you know your limitations, then why are you bellyaching? I used to be in the same boat as you, living in Iowa, where I saw 4 shows of this caliber in 6 years. I live an hour from Chicago now, have more money, and have seen at least that many this SUMMER. Just enjoy your local stuff and if it bothers you so much that bands like Weezer don't play your hometown and you don't like to travel, move to where they do play. And Weezer's never going to charge $15 at the door again for a show, so don't hold your breath on that one.
That's the sound of my (and others') point zooming past your head.
And we're just having a discussion here. Don't get all wound up about it.
Permalink Reply by placemats on October 11, 2010 at 9:59am
placemats said:I stand by my statement.
Christopher Hickman said:
placemats said:What do you mean making them cheaper doesn't benefit anyone? It benefits the fans. And there are ways bands can prevent scalpers from scooping up the good seats, such as will call only tickets that require an ID or credit card verfication.
Christopher Hickman said:That's my point - they're NOT charging what the biggest bands in the world charge, they're charging less. But I challenge you to find a popular major label act charging significantly less than this.
I wish they were cheaper too, and I think they're overpriced (not Weezer in particular, concert tickets in general), but I'm part of the problem as I continue to buy. And making them cheaper doesn't benefit anyone, because then the band gets less money and the scalpers get more.
Go try to get tickets to the Aragon right now from Ticketmaster, and then try from Stub Hub, and see what you think. Do you think this would be BETTER if the tickets were LESS?
Then you don't see the forest for the trees.
Here's an example for you:
Situation #1: Band sets ticket prices at $25. Scalpers buy up most and sell for $100
Situation #2: Band sets ticket prices at $50. Scalpers buy up most and sell for $100
The only "fans" that win are the small handful that are able to get in fast enough to buy what the scalpers can't, won't, or are limited from buying themselves. The band has LOST $25 on each ticket that they could have had, and the scalpers made $25 MORE per ticket. So lowering ticket prices does not help fans attend the show (it's already sold out anyway), and it makes the band less money, while allowing someone else not involved with the band to profit MORE off them.
Really, they should just put every ticket for every concert up for straight auction with a starting price (a fairly low one). This would almost entirely eliminate scalping.
Permalink Reply by Kilmister [spaz] on October 11, 2010 at 10:40am
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